Has anyone else had problems getting off SolidWorks email list?

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I haven’t been to the SW website in months but all of a sudden i'm getting daily newsletters in three different POP email accounts. I click the unsub button on every one and then the next day there it is again. I finally did the delete all my info thinking that would take care of it but nope, still keeps on sending. I never look at those shotgun emails and I like a nice clean box so this is driving my OCD off the edge. Are you guys getting these also?
 

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Yes, the sheer quantity of sales spam that comes from SW is ridiculous. I was getting it all twice as well, first from D'Assault, and then the exact same crap carbon copy from the reseller.

It's not that difficult to stop it though - log in to your customer portal and change your communication preferences. Of course, that assumes you are an actual customer and not just a poor bastard that they've decided is a potential customer. If you're the latter then you're on your own I guess.

The unsub button worked on the reseller copies.
 

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It's not that difficult to stop it though - log in to your customer portal and change your communication preferences. Of course, that assumes you are an actual customer and not just a poor bastard that they've decided is a potential customer. If you're the latter then you're on your own I guess.

I bought and paid but yet its all sales BS. They are as bad as a staffing company just mass emailing job openings hoping for a bite.
 

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Lol, trust me, that was just the tip of the iceberg...
I feel the same way. Solidworks wasn't cutting it, swapped to Powershape because of mold flow, AD fucked that up. Ventured out to PTC Creo and loving it but now they are starting to move to cloud with Onshape UI. Where to go now, Catia? Oh wait, Dassault owns them too.
 

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I feel the same way. Solidworks wasn't cutting it, swapped to Powershape because of mold flow, AD fucked that up. Ventured out to PTC Creo and loving it but now they are starting to move to cloud with Onshape UI. Where to go now, Catia? Oh wait, Dassault owns them too.
A friend of mine runs both Catia and NX. From what he told me Catia is OFF THE CHARTS expensive. IIRC he has Catia because of some of his customers.
 

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I feel the same way. Solidworks wasn't cutting it, swapped to Powershape because of mold flow, AD fucked that up. Ventured out to PTC Creo and loving it but now they are starting to move to cloud with Onshape UI. Where to go now, Catia? Oh wait, Dassault owns them too.
NX is the holy grail. I used it for about a year and a half as a loaner seat from a customer while I was working with them on a project.

It blew me away and now I can only see the faults and shortcomings in SW.

It's hard to justify financially, but I will dump SW for NX, sooner or later...
 

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NX is the holy grail. I used it for about a year and a half as a loaner seat from a customer while I was working with them on a project.

It blew me away and now I can only see the faults and shortcomings in SW.

It's hard to justify financially, but I will dump SW for NX, sooner or later...
Have you tried Solid Edge? I've talked to numerous folks that used both SW and SE, but not yet to anyone who uses both SE and NX.
 

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Have you tried Solid Edge? I've talked to numerous folks that used both SW and SE, but not yet to anyone who uses both SE and NX.
I think we've spoken about this before, but yes I've tried solid edge. Not exhaustively, but I had a 30 day demo a long time ago, and again about a year ago.

It's a completely different product to NX. It seems maybe a bit more stable than solidworks but doesn't really offer anything featurewise that SW doesn't, for my usage at least.
 
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A friend of mine runs both Catia and NX. From what he told me Catia is OFF THE CHARTS expensive. IIRC he has Catia because of some of his customers.
Oh yes, they are proud of it, but then again they’re constantly improving and the tech support is 1st class. When we were tier 1 supplying Gulf Stream we had to use Catia. Gulf Stream has so many seats that Catia has a full time tech support team covering three shifts seven days a week. If any of the local suppliers in Savannah have questions GS sends one of the geeks right over to work out the problem.

Every time they had an upgrade after they trained the GS employees they sent the geeks to the local supplier and gave free training. I have never seen a software company go that far. 36 seats of Powermill/Powershape and Delcam hit me for $800 to give the basics when I hired new groups.
 

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I think we've spoken about this before, but yes I've tried solid edge. Not exhaustively, but I had a 30 day demo a long time ago, and again about a year ago.

It's a completely different product to NX. It seems maybe a bit more stable than solidworks but doesn't really offer anything featurewise that SW doesn't, for my usage at least.
If you don't mind me asking, what do you need from NX or Catia that SE doesn't do?
I looked at NX back when it was called UG, have been curious ever since about what I might be missing out on now.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, what do you need from NX or Catia that SE doesn't do?
I looked at NX back when it was called UG, have been curious ever since about what I might be missing out on now.
I was trained a small amount on UG years ago, but xfered to a diff department, where I went back to 2-d autocad...yuck.

In the meantime, I could see it was the futrure, so I took solidworks 99 at night, on my dime, and learned solid modelling using that.
2008 my department moved up to Inventor, and the change was easy for me (from r13 to inventor) as the solidworks
training paid off.

From what I hear from the other department (and I have access to their files) NX is UG inside of Teamcenter.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, what do you need from NX or Catia that SE doesn't do?
I know you directed your question @lobust but i chimed in. For me its probably not SW being a shit program, It's the fact they really don't have good training. I got a few days run through but the instructor was just having us do the tutorials while he played on his MYspace page back then. Other than what people I have worked have shown me I'm pretty much self taught. Catia's flow is just smooth but needs a whopper of a PC to run.

What puzzles me is the fact they are both owned by Dassault yet SW has worse support and training than Bobcad, and Catia has the best in the industry. Sure, Catia is 5-10X the price but you would think with the Dassault name on it they would treat them as the same.
 

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I know you directed your question @lobust but i chimed in. For me its probably not SW being a shit program, It's the fact they really don't have good training. I got a few days run through but the instructor was just having us do the tutorials while he played on his MYspace page back then. Other than what people I have worked have shown me I'm pretty much self taught. Catia's flow is just smooth but needs a whopper of a PC to run.

What puzzles me is the fact they are both owned by Dassault yet SW has worse support and training than Bobcad, and Catia has the best in the industry. Sure, Catia is 5-10X the price but you would think with the Dassault name on it they would treat them as the same.
I was told Dassault bought SW because it was costing them business. If that is true it could explain the shitty support.

I bought SW through SolidCam and there maintenance and support also covers SW. I don't know if it officially does but every time I've called with a SW question they answered it or got on a goto meeting and showed me how to do it.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, what do you need from NX or Catia that SE doesn't do?
I looked at NX back when it was called UG, have been curious ever since about what I might be missing out on now.
Well first off I don't need Catia!

The big thing that NX brings to the table for me is speed. I can build a model much faster in NX and I can check a model much faster in NX. That is a big deal here because every part that we make, we model for manufacture before we start and that model is used for everything from cam to cmm, so it has to be right and it has to be made right, quick. The sketcher in NX is much more intelligent and refined than in SW, so you get the finished sketch much quicker with less work. Then when you have finished the sketch the solid tools themselves are way more flexible in NX. I love that booleans are built in to the solid tools in NX vs a separate feature. I used to use intersect booleans a LOT in NX, and it's way more cumbersome in SW, because you have to construct two discrete solid bodies and then use the intersect tool, which is completely dumb and forces you to be extremely explicit about which regions you want. Like everything else, it's like 10x more mouse clicks in SW than in NX.

I much prefer the vector driven workflow of NX over the plane driven workflow of SW/SE. It's more complex and I know that it's the reason a lot of people think that NX is more difficult to learn, but it allows you to construct geometry with WAY less preparation work (planes, construction geometry, reference sketches etc.) compared to SW. This reinforces the speed difference.

All the model creation tools are just way more robust in NX. Things don't randomly fail the way they do in SW. In particular we make a lot of big steel parts for subsea that need to have organic shape/continuous curvature. Things like adding fillets to complex lofts fails more than it succeeds in SW and you can fight that shit for hours. It just works in NX, or on the rare occurrence that it doesn't, it will help you figure out why, which SW doesn't do at all.

The synchronous modelling in NX is on another level. I use synchronous/direct editing all the time on finished models to build a stock model. It's way more robust in NX than in SW, although I will say they are less prone to failure than they used to be in SW.

I know you directed your question @lobust but i chimed in. For me its probably not SW being a shit program, It's the fact they really don't have good training. I got a few days run through but the instructor was just having us do the tutorials while he played on his MYspace page back then. Other than what people I have worked have shown me I'm pretty much self taught. Catia's flow is just smooth but needs a whopper of a PC to run.

What puzzles me is the fact they are both owned by Dassault yet SW has worse support and training than Bobcad, and Catia has the best in the industry. Sure, Catia is 5-10X the price but you would think with the Dassault name on it they would treat them as the same.
Man SW is a shit program. It's one of the buggiest, flakiest programs I've ever used. It might be a good program in terms of functionality and ease of use, but it is right up there at Microsoft levels of shoddy quality and incompetent development.
 
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I get it now, thanks. SE doesn't do Booleans. Unless the latest version does, I'm still one version behind. I sometimes have failures of complex chamfers or rounds and have to work around it. Synchronous can't be intermingled with history tree items, and needing planes for everything is a PITA. Those 4 things alone would be a big improvement.
 
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