What's a good price to pay for a couple #6 Fellows shapers?

Garwood

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Found a couple Fellows shapers. Guy in his 80's way out in the sticks. Quite a drive from where I'm at. Sounds like a dirt floor shop. No forklift to load. He says he made all the tri-lobe change gears. One shaper has a riser. Guy did mostly one off gear job work. Sounds like lots of gear cutters. His hands don't work right anymore so he needs to sell them off he says.

The guy said he didn't want much for them. I offered in the range of $3000 for the pair with change gears and cutters and he seemed offended.

The guy doesn't have a cell phone or a camera. Can't send pictures. "Come and look for yourself".

I'm thinking these would be worth $3000 each if they were near civilization, in decent shape with pictures. In this situation around half that sounds more realistic to me.

I might make the trek to look at them later this week. Any important things to check on fellows #6's?

And on that note are there variations of the 6's? The guy just says they're 6's. He won't refine that to a "6A" or such.
 

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A 6 is very different from a 6A, older and bigger. I don't have much info on 6s but google will turn up some pictures. 6s don't seem to be worth much to resell. Most that I've seen were flat belt machines with electric motors added on.
 

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From this it looks like 6s have keyed gears, so maybe they are 6As - https://hgrinc.com/productDetail/Machine-Tools/Used-Fellows-6-Type-Gear-Shaper/09211760001/
The stuff I sent you a while back describes the variations of 6A machines, hollow work and cutter spindles are the most valuable and scarce models, a riser is a plus as long as it's not huge like 8" or 10". The worst wear spots are the spur guide on the top, and the quill and the ID of the head, both gall and get gouged if the oil wicks get clogged. And are hard/impossible to repair.
There are lots of bushings and bearings etc that can wear, most are replaceable but a lot of work to get to. Check the casting at the right front of the machine where the adjustable rack drives the pinion to turn the linear motion into rotary motion, Fellows quoted me $3500 for that part 30 years ago, IF they had a casting available, which they didn't.
From rebuilding 3 of them, it seems that if one part of the machine is really loose and worn, most of the rest of the machine is the same way.
 
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I asked him about the gears again. He says they are different looking machines and one does use keyed gears.

You are right on Mud!

I definitely don't want the type 6 and the price doesn't make sense considering that.
 
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