When you don’t have a horizontal 😧.

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Didn't want to rotate the head? I suppose it is a bit of a PITA to re-tram it
 

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Didn't want to rotate the head? I suppose it is a bit of a PITA to re-tram it
I can’t rotate the head 90 without removing the bracket that holds my DRO, my clamp kit, and collet/chuck rack. Plus the part would have to be higher up off the table than my current vise height. In any event, the head will get checked after I move everything back and tweaked if needed.
 

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If Van and I weren't 3000 miles apart I'd sell him a #2 for $500 bucks.
But getting 4k of mill out there......well........
 

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Not having a quill makes horizontal holes suck. I considered making a mount for a second head on the side of the main casting once upon a time. Now I have a H-V machine so I don't have to think about that any more. I had a Wells 860 with a H spindle for a while and never used it, so I guess I don't need one. What I need is more room so I don't have to sell anything ever.
 

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Vancbiker's way smarter than you guys think. He's kept his shop on the small side so he can't collect dozens of machines. He's got all the room in the world for a huge shop, but he also has the restraint NOT to build it lol.

Though, after seeing the size of that part and the fact it was pretty damn nice weather today I am a little offended he didn't take a short jaunt on the Ducati down to visit me so I could help him do that machinework with my HBM.
 

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Though, after seeing the size of that part and the fact it was pretty damn nice weather today I am a little offended he didn't take a short jaunt on the Ducati down to visit me so I could help him do that machinework with my HBM.
Unless it’s 60 or warmer, that thing stays in the garage. Would not want to get a chill 🥴.
 

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I have a friend did that same thing with some parts 8' long, the machine was 5' in the air on a forklift and he was standing on a step ladder, wish I had pics
First shop I worked at had a big radial drill. Right in front of the table there as a pit about 2 foot square by about 10 foot deep. We drilled and tapped bolt patterns in the ends of the legs for Hyster straddle carriers by hanging them down the pit and clamping to a fixture mounted on the table.
 

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Do you ever stop and consider just how universal that Bridgeport format is. There's a reason its copied the world over, and you can buy a new version today, what is it 80 -100 years latter. Its the one machine that's a thorn in the CNC v Manual age old argument. Sooner or latter there's that one job.

As always. Regards Phil.
 

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The ability to reach over the edge of the table is something that is a sore miss sometimes on most vertical cncs.

The Hurco DCX32 we had at my old place did reach over the edge in Y by about 250mm either side and had a good 300mm clear down the side until the auger.

I used that ability surprisingly often, I even made a fixture for the 4th axis whereby I could mount it on the edge of the table facing Y, and use it like a horizontal. Made specifically for one job, but used many times thereafter.

I would have killed for an actual horizontal for the work we were doing there, but it needed to be a big one and the stars never aligned where there was one available and we had the money and floorspace all at the same time.
 

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I have a friend did that same thing with some parts 8' long, the machine was 5' in the air on a forklift and he was standing on a step ladder, wish I had pics
A mate who was also a Customer, had a 3ft dia hole dug 3ft deep so he could do a specific couple of jobs by hanging them off the table "downwards". All nicely done on a floor you could eat your dinner off with a removable manhole cover
 

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A manual lathe works well for this type of work, especially for holes over 5" deep.
Yes it can sometimes. I have a small vise that can bolt to the T-slot on the compound slide of my lathe. For this part it wouldn’t work as it doesn’t open enough for the bar to sit flat and standing up it was too tall.
 

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Not having a quill makes horizontal holes suck
Never really found that to be a problem for me.....yea, you don't have quite the feel of a quill using a handwheel to "drill'
but I'm not doing it every day.... guess it's what you get used too.....
always different ways to skin the same cat... :LOL:
 
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